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prue batten's avatar

What a reasoned, intellectual view Elizabeth.

In a way, I probably have no right to comment as The First (and indeed your terrifying Second Amendment) has no significance to me living far from the USA.

The trouble is that the world is full of imitators and we have our own share. And the world through time repeats history. Over and over, learning nothing. What makes it worse these days is media-coverage: mainstream and social. It allows people to openly machinate under safe cover and that can be and is, terrifying.

I've thought long and hard since reading Katz's article and subsequently the Substack letter that Ramona shared. I despise hate speech and hate action, of that there is no doubt. But Substack is probably one of the best forms of social media for me - it allows me to write and indulge the poetic side of my life without fear of rejection. If I'm rejected at all, I get a notification that said rejecter has cancelled their sub. And that's fine. I've done the same with accounts that don't gel for me. Is that enough? Does it protect my (our) sensibilities?

When I look at the people to whom I subscribe, they are of a kind - they make me feel safe and contented in an essentially unsafe and disconnected world. Is that enough? Because it's me voluntarily subscribing, it has to be.

I live on a tiny island that I have often called a pimple on the arse-end of the world. What I think, what I say and how I act has little influence on the greater world. But what I would really like is for my posts to be a haven for people in tough times.

I'm putting a great deal of faith in Substack for that never to change.

Thank you so much for your always reasoned and harmonious views on life. It is appreciated from down here at the bottom.

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Yes! I feel like there is a good sized group of us who have sympathies with both sides, with the tiebreaker being “how?” One can bemoan that it’s not our job as users to propose a fix, but until one is described I fall back on the old saw “if you don’t got a solution you don’t got a problem”.

I was actively on Notes for the whole kerfuffle, so I can unfortunately report that I didn’t see single mind changed throughout the arguments.

I guess maybe me? At first, I leaned towards the “absolutist” but reading the back and forth made me slightly soften my stance because (like 99% of us) I hate Nazi’s too. But at my core I’ve always been a practical dude so the “conversation” has only led me back to my natural tendency to side on the question of implementation.

I find that most online arguments end like this. None of the participants’ minds are changed in any significant fashion, just sharpened in their original positions.

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